From: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org (Monkey Digest) To: monkey-digest@valinor.eldar.org Subject: Monkey Digest V1 #77 Reply-To: monkey@valinor.eldar.org Sender: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Errors-To: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Precedence: bulk Monkey Digest Saturday, August 2 1997 Volume 01 : Number 077 In this issue: Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS Re: [monkey] Monkey Theme [monkey] Footage madness. Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS Re: [monkey] Monkey t-shirts - Problem with copyright? Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS [monkey] David Collings as Monkey. Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS Re: [monkey] Footage madness. Re: [monkey] Monkey t-shirts - Problem with copyright? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:22:20 +1000 From: beaman Subject: Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS At 11:03 31/07/97 -0400, you wrote: >Nick >OK, so I made some bad comparisons, like with the soaps. But things like >eyebrows being different are continuity errors. What the narrator says is >part of the Buddhist`s belief`s and do make sense. Read some Confucious, >unless you already have. >Anyway, sorry, no offense meant. >Greg > The special effects in Monkey added to the uniqueness of the show, which has made it do so well, minutures, and dodgy effects have been used in many of the old time classic movies, the effects of monkey add to its personality, I,ve always seen alot of mistakes in the series, like you can tell if rocks aren,t real, (a example is when Monkey tranfromes tripitaka into a female monster? in 'land of nightmares', trys to make a tree bloom and a oversized tree lands on Monkeys head. ) The effects add to the quality and the uniquness of the show angela beaman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 02:04:00 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey Theme >I have just finished my monkey theme and it is 4.46KB. >It also features the song "Monkey Magic" when you start Windows and >"Ghandara" when you finish. >To run the theme you may need a special themes programme as it is a >"the" file, I use a programme called Desktop themes. >So if you want the theme for the web page you can have it. > >ASHLEY It sounds good!! I cannot put a 4.46MB file on my web site; maybe someone else on the list could put it on their Monkey web site? Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 02:55:32 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: [monkey] Footage madness. Hello. 4 days ago, I found a web site for a company that said they had access to libraries of photos and footage from old tv shows and films etc., and there was a form to fill in, where you name a tv show, and give your name, address and phone number. Well, needless to say, I filled in the form for Monkey, thinking they might possibly find me some quality stills from the show. Since I filled in this form, I've had emails from various companies, telling me that for $600 they'll do research for me, and find out how I can get the BROADCASTING RIGHTS to show Monkey (on "Howell TV"?). I've had phone calls at home from various people; one of them on Tuesday was quite interesting. It was from a lady at one of these "footage companies" who told me that her husband worked on the English dubbing for Monkey! She gave me the phone number for a company in London called De Lane Lee; I should speak to the managing director, and he might be able to help me "get my business deal" !?! I'm not sure what this lady was thinking - maybe she thinks I want to broadcast Monkey too. This is all very bizarre!?! Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:16:45 +0100 From: Martin Packer Subject: Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS >Moreover, a lot of the village set designs are obvious re-workings >of the same set. And don't forget _that_ cave. Martin (Very much of the school of thought that such production glitches are there to be laughed at and treasured.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:16:43 +0100 From: Martin Packer Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey t-shirts - Problem with copyright? > I`d have to check this, but copyrighting laws would surely only apply for > commercial or widespread use. Would you also be flaunting copyright laws > if you created a T-shirt from a film poster that you had bought? > I`ll check and publish the results here on the list - unless anyone else > already knows? Strictly speaking, the copyright laws apply to any usage of the copyrighted material that involves copying it. Creating a T-shirt for a film poster that you own, or taping a CD that you own (even if it's for your own use) is breaking copyright. In practice, of course, this situation is completely unenforcable. So cases are only likely to be brought where commercial advantage is being gained or the copyright holder can demonstrate consequential losses. It's not surprising that T-shirt printers are concerned about covering themselves against the possibility of this happening. If the T-shirt printers won't do it, has anyone here tried that special fabric-transfer paper you can get for inkjet printers? Martin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:35:12 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS At 03:16 PM 8/1/97 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: Moreover, a lot of the village set designs are obvious re-workings of the same set. And don't forget _that_ cave. Hahaha, indeed. I think in one episode Monkey says, "I think I've been here before", which is an obvious piss-take on the similarity of the sets. Martin (Very much of the school of thought that such production glitches are there to be laughed at and treasured.) Absolutely! They made do with the budgets they had and imagination was the key. Hollywood production values have destroyed such charm for the kids of today IMHO. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:57:47 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: [monkey] David Collings as Monkey. Hi All, Many people are probably already aware of this but for those that aren't, David Collings was the English voice of Monkey and he has appeared in several British shows as well. I suspected this some time ago because I recognized his distinctive vocal tones in an episode of Doctor Who. I thought- hey, that bloke sounds like Monkey! I thought I was merely imagining it but later on it was confirmed to me that David Collings did indeed voice Monkey. He has appeared in the Doctor Who adventures, "Revenge of The Cybermen", "The Robots of Death" and "Mawdryn Undead". He was also in the cracking final episode of Blake's 7 (where he does a great pratt fall :) ) More recently, he appeared as the principal in "Press Gang". I understand he was also in a show called "Saphire and Steel". I've never seen this show but no doubt, British members of the list will know what it's about. Colling's voice is easily recognizable as the deep and emotive voice of Monkey and surprisingly, he doesn't sound a great deal different to Monkey when playing roles with his normal accent, although, he does put an exaggerated "asian" slant on his Monkey characterization. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:14:58 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] BAD MONKEY VISUALS >>Moreover, a lot of the village set designs are obvious re-workings >>of the same set. > >And don't forget _that_ cave. I've heard about this - apparently, later in the series when he's in that cave *again* he looks around and says "Hmm, funny, I'm sure I've been here before...". It's good to see self-parody like this in the show! Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:36:03 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] Footage madness. > 4 days ago, I found a web site for a company that said they had access > to libraries of photos and footage from old tv shows and films etc., and > there was a form to fill in, where you name a tv show, and give your > name, address and phone number. > > Well, needless to say, I filled in the form for Monkey, thinking they > might possibly find me some quality stills from the show. > > Since I filled in this form, I've had emails from various companies, > telling me that for $600 they'll do research for me, and find out how I > can get the BROADCASTING RIGHTS to show Monkey (on "Howell TV"?). > > I've had phone calls at home from various people; one of them on Tuesday > was quite interesting. It was from a lady at one of these "footage > companies" who told me that her husband worked on the English dubbing > for Monkey! > > She gave me the phone number for a company in London called De Lane Lee; > I should speak to the managing director, and he might be able to help me > "get my business deal" !?! I'm not sure what this lady was thinking - > maybe she thinks I want to broadcast Monkey too. > > This is all very bizarre!?! Howell, your Monkey related adventures into the web just get more and more strange....!! .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:04:33 +0800 From: Arwen Gunter Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey t-shirts - Problem with copyright? This is generally true if reprinting photos/logos from a show. Original drawings aren't against copyright. I've actually been looking into this as we now have the capability of printing iron-on transfers for shirts on our printer and were hoping to make shirts for clubs/personal use - non-profit of course. btw, this means I may available to print them up if people are interested. It's a lot better internationally as you can just send the pics themselves, rather than worry about posting a shirt. Arwen Howell Parry wrote: > A friend of mine has informed me that the t-shirt printing place I > know > in Manchester may refuse to print a Monkey t-shirt for me, because I > don't own the copyright for the images from Monkey. > > He's used this t-shirt place before, and when he gave them a graphic > to > print (which was his own creation) they checked that he owned the > copyright before they printed it. > > If I want to get just 1 Monkey t-shirt printed for myself, would this > cause a problem? > > Is the issue here whether I'm doing it for commercial gain? Surely, if > > I'm doing it with no intention of making any profit, it should be ok? > > Or do I still need to contact NTV, to ask their permission? > > Confused! > > Howell > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- Arwen@johndelenn.com unicorn@mzac.interlink.net - -- Ivanova: "Having delusions of grandeur again?" Marcus: "I've always said, if you're going to have delusions you may as well go for the really satisfying ones." 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