From: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org (Monkey Digest) To: monkey-digest@valinor.eldar.org Subject: Monkey Digest V1 #74 Reply-To: monkey@valinor.eldar.org Sender: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Errors-To: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Precedence: bulk Monkey Digest Wednesday, July 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 074 In this issue: Re: [monkey] Holy and Bright Re: [monkey] How about..... Re: [monkey] Today's Monkey information from Japan Re: [monkey] How about..... Re: [monkey] Today's Monkey information from Japan Re: [monkey] Re: Monkey Digest V1 #63 [monkey] Monkey cartoon [monkey] More information about the cast of Monkey these days... Re: [monkey] Monkey T-shirts [monkey] monkey coat [monkey] midi Re: [monkey] midi Re: [monkey] Monkey T-shirts Re: [monkey] MONKEY PRODUCTION VALUES Re: [monkey] monkey coat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:31:29 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] Holy and Bright > Well, the third series opening montage is a shorter reworking of the > original one and the "character profiles" are done in a slightly different > fashion. The narrator's opening speech is changed considerably and the line > where he says, "the pheonix can fly only when it's feathers are grown" has > been deleted. I think one of the best bits of Monkey was the opening sequence for the first two series. It was *so* cheesey and tacky it always seemed to be taking the piss out of itself. I thought it was excellent. Especially the 1980's Top of the Pops style effects with the faces appearing in multitudes of boxes. It was classic. The third one was awful. Especially the bit explaining the new Pigsy. Disgraceful. There's no humour in the opening to the third series at all. I think the third series was just milking it really, although I very much enjoyed Yulung, I'm sure it was done for the money and nothing else. > He was really a watered down version of the Pigsy character with similar > cowardly traits although he didn't lust after girls like Pigsy. I reckon > they introduced Yu-Lung so there'd be another character for Monkey to bully > and tease :) They never quite released the full potential of Yu-Lung. I think alongside proper Pigsy he would have been even better. .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:36:16 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] How about..... > >>We could have : > >>"I LOVE TO FIGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTT!!!!!!" > >>as a print on the shirt,but that may result in many a beating for the > >>wearer..... > >> hhhmmmm.... > >>Greg. > > Or, how about something really simple: > > The text: > Monkeeeeeeyyyyy!!! > > with the picture: > http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/monkey/02monk.jpg Personally, I think if you're going to do a Monkey T-Shirt and you're going to have a picture, you should make it really stupid. Either one of the ridiculous pose ones or one of the demons (erm.. I would say I've got tonnes of them on my web pages...). If you're going to do a caption, I think you should have a stupid quote, not just a "Monnkkeeeyy!" or something, because, well, that doesn't say much to anyone. How about a picture of Orville (http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/orville.htm - I can't think of the actual picture name) with "You're not a God, you're a birthday cake!" underneath it. Or something similar. Anyway, just thoughts. John .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:36:16 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] Today's Monkey information from Japan > Here's some more Monkey information from Japan: > > "Monkey" is the most popular TV show that NTV ever made, so to celebrate > the 40th anniversary of the channel, they made a new 1990s series of > Monkey, a remake of the original series. It featured the newest special > effects and computer graphics, and included a completely new cast. It > only ran for 1 season, and was unpopular (I guess it couldn't beat the > original series!). Presumably this was never translated into English? I'd definitely see it if it was on, but somehow I hope not. It can't possibly live up to the original series. .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:10:45 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] How about..... >> >>We could have : >> >>"I LOVE TO FIGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTT!!!!!!" >> >>as a print on the shirt,but that may result in many a beating for the >> >>wearer..... >> >> hhhmmmm.... >> >>Greg. >> >> Or, how about something really simple: >> >> The text: >> Monkeeeeeeyyyyy!!! >> >> with the picture: >> http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/monkey/02monk.jpg > >Personally, I think if you're going to do a Monkey T-Shirt and you're >going to have a picture, you should make it really stupid. Either >one of the ridiculous pose ones or one of the demons (erm.. I would >say I've got tonnes of them on my web pages...). If you're going to >do a caption, I think you should have a stupid quote, not just a >"Monnkkeeeyy!" or something, because, well, that doesn't say much to >anyone. > >How about a picture of Orville >(http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/orville.htm - I can't think >of the actual picture name) with "You're not a God, you're a birthday >cake!" underneath it. Or something similar. > >Anyway, just thoughts. I like the idea of using a really stupid picture - how about this one of Monkey cross-eyed: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~chris/monk15.jpg with the quote "I don't like iiiiiit!" ? The Orville one sounds cool, but I'd prefer to have one with Monkey on... Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:12:43 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] Today's Monkey information from Japan >> Here's some more Monkey information from Japan: >> >> "Monkey" is the most popular TV show that NTV ever made, so to celebrate >> the 40th anniversary of the channel, they made a new 1990s series of >> Monkey, a remake of the original series. It featured the newest special >> effects and computer graphics, and included a completely new cast. It >> only ran for 1 season, and was unpopular (I guess it couldn't beat the >> original series!). > >Presumably this was never translated into English? I'd definitely >see it if it was on, but somehow I hope not. It can't possibly live >up to the original series. Apparently, even with all the latest effects, it wasn't a patch on the original series; I would guess it was never translated into English, since it wasn't popular. Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:05:38 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] Re: Monkey Digest V1 #63 >I can speak basic Japanese. But I suppose a lot of you can. Anyway, I >think the monkey newsletter/fan-club/magazine etc would be great. Would anyone on this list be interested in setting up a non-Internet Monkey fan club, with newsletters etc.? Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:36:56 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: [monkey] Monkey cartoon Check out this page: http://www1.toei-anim.co.jp/History/003.html It features pictures from a cartoon version of Monkey. This web site is all about the history of anime, so I'm guessing this is the 1960 Japanese anime film Saiyuki, based on the Monkey story. On the 1st picture on this page, Monkey, Tripitaka and Pigsy are instantly recognisable, but Sandy looks quite different!?! I like the last picture, where Monkey's chasing Pigsy on his cloud; I guess this corresponds to the episode where Pigsy's got his own cloud, which sounds like a tractor and keeps spluttering along. Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:49:00 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: [monkey] More information about the cast of Monkey these days... Here's some more info from Japan: One of Masaaki Sakai's current shows is called "Here's The Kitchen" - in Japanese this is "Cyuuboudesuyo!" It's a comedy cookery show. Masaaki looks very different these days; he now has a lot of grey hair. Toshiyuki Nishida (Pigsy) has done lots of movies, including a comedy called "The Diary of Crazy Fishing". Shiro Kishibe (Sandy) is NOT a ping pong player (when I told him I thought he was, his response was "hahaha"); he hosts a morning show on Japanese TV. Tonpei Hidari, the actor who played Pigsy in series 3, is never seen on TV or in movies these days. He is unheard of. Shunji Fujimura, the actor who played Yu-Lung in series 3, is unheard of these days. Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:06:06 -0700 From: Tu Chung Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey T-shirts Howell Parry wrote: > > Since there appears to be a lack of Monkey merchandise, I've decided to > start making my own. > > I'm going to start by creating some Monkey t-shirts; I know a t-shirt > printing place here in Manchester that will take a graphic on disk, and > produce t-shirts for a reasonable price. > > Anyone got any ideas for a t-shirt design? Which picture (that's > available on the Internet) do you think would look go on a t-shirt? > > Howell > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com I thought of doin the same thing,but they people at the printing place are very strict about Copyright.U need permission first ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:14:50 -0700 From: Tu Chung Subject: [monkey] monkey coat i remember an ep in which monkey was captured and held in a wooden cage and his body minus his head was in animal form,Can someone tell me what ep this is from. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:15:20 -0700 From: Tu Chung Subject: [monkey] midi is there any news regarding the monkey midi. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 05:39:37 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] midi >is there any news regarding the monkey midi. I got MIDI files of Monkey Magic and Gandhara from a Japanese guy last week. You can download them from my Monkey Sounds page: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/sounds.html A friend of mine is working on a MIDI version of Monkey Magic too; I should get it from him sometime in the next week. Howell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:20:38 +0100 From: Martin Day Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey T-shirts >> All these ideas are probably far too ambitious. Howell, even if you can't >do >> something that looks really professional, I think a faded, rough, grungey >> kinda style would be good too because it is an old, cult program >afterall. >> >> Nick. >> >All great suggestions. I think a Seventies kind of look to the t-shirt >would be appropriate too. > >Lisa In case anyone is interested, there's an advert in the current (i.e. first) issue of _Cult TV_ for an official _Water Margin_ T-shirt... Cheers ________________________________________________________________________ Martin http://ds.dial.pipex.com/marty/ "Tough on stains, tough on the causes of stains" ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:14:34 +0100 From: Martin Day Subject: Re: [monkey] MONKEY PRODUCTION VALUES >At 10:03 AM 7/28/97 +0100, Martin Day wrote: > >At 10:03 AM 7/28/97 +0100, on the Monkey Mailing List, Martin Day wrote: > >Please, let's not get into slagging off other programmes just to bolster >our positive opinion of _Monkey_. It's, frankly, tedious - and, as a >_Who_ fan, I would suggest, inaccurate, at least in regards to SFX!! :-) > >Martin, you've misinterpreted my meaning and intention a little. I was not >slagging off Doctor Who or Blakes 7 at all. In fact, Doctor Who is my >favourite television program (yes, it rates above Monkey- but only just!) >And I also love Blakes 7 :) Apologies. My comments weren't so much directed at you (or even Howell, who's such a nice bloke) - your own comments on the SFX were very articulate - but I was just very wary of lots of people replying with "Yeah, I thought _Blake's 7_ woz crap, too". I've seen too many monosyllabic "Is _Trek_ better than _B5_?" 'debates' to really get off on this. However, this is not to say that I don't want programmes compared and contrasted, especially in the detailed and sensible way you do in the following, and apologies if this was the implication you drew. [big snip, to save space] You're right, of course, to compare _Monkey_ with _Who_ in the 70s, and you make your points with great precision. I guess ultimately, though, it's all subjective. I just mentally compare, say, the stock footage of the TARDIS flying through space with, say, some of the obvious model work of Monkey flying on his cloud. It's a close call, but I think the former is marginally more believeable. I could be wrong, of course! Each to his own, and thanks for responding in such detail. Best wishes ________________________________________________________________________ Martin http://ds.dial.pipex.com/marty/ "Tough on stains, tough on the causes of stains" ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 07:42:55 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: Re: [monkey] monkey coat At 10:14 PM 7/29/97 -0700, Tu Chung wrote: i remember an ep in which monkey was captured and held in a wooden cage and his body minus his head was in animal form,Can someone tell me what ep this is from. It was from the episode, "Pigsy Woos A Widow" (season one). Pigsy turns into Tripitaka so he can entice a widow who is in love with the priest (in order to guzzle all her food and shag her senseless!). Monkey turns into a horsefly in order to stop Pigsy's little trick. However, he is swatted by a young girl who obviously hates bugs a lot :) The beating he recieves in insect form causes him to lose his memory and his magic powers. Thereafter, he is locked up in a cage by a group of villagers so they can use him as a novelty act. Monkey looks very amusing in that silly gorilla suit and he makes some hilarious ape-like gestures and movements. Monkey's memory returns when Tripitaka invokes the headache sutra (his powers then return too and he puts his clothes back on :)) Nick. ------------------------------ End of Monkey Digest V1 #74 *************************** ----------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the Monkey Mailing List digest list, send mail to: majordomo@valinor.eldar.org with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe monkey-digest To send a message to the list, send mail to: monkey-digest@valinor.eldar.org If you have any problems or questions, send mail to: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org For lots more information and news about "Monkey", check out the Monkey! web site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/