From: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org (Monkey Digest) To: monkey-digest@valinor.eldar.org Subject: Monkey Digest V1 #23 Reply-To: monkey@valinor.eldar.org Sender: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Errors-To: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org Precedence: bulk Monkey Digest Thursday, June 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 023 In this issue: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" [monkey] Monkey on Bravo [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. [monkey] Royalties Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" Re: [monkey] Who's your favourite character? Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" Re: [monkey] Pigsy's pig features [monkey] The Wasp Witch Episode- Nicole, it does exist!! Re: [monkey] Royalties Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" Re: [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. Re: [monkey] THanks Howell Re: [monkey] CD for People in the Great Southern Land Re: [monkey] Royalties Re: [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. Re: [monkey] episode summary - 'What Monkey Calls The Dog-Woman' [monkey] Pearls of Wisdom... Re: [monkey] Pigsy's pig features Re: [monkey] Video release Re: [monkey] episode summary - 'What Monkey Calls The Re: [monkey] Who's your favourite character? Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept [monkey] last episode? Re: [monkey] last episode? [monkey] episode summary - 'Pigsy In The Well' Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" [monkey] last episode ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 17:07:52 +1000 From: "Clare O'Farrell" Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" >Is it just me........or was there an episode where a witch-like >character was stealing children from a village, and Monkey and his >entourage came and saved the day? Yes, it was an episode which had an evil wasp witch as the villain - she was stealing the villagers' children and had been for generations. She had 100 hundred of her own children and she was using the human children to lay grubs in (YUK!) Speaking of sad scenes there was another awful one in this episode with a well that had been dry for years now had salt water in it after one of the bereaved mothers had thrown herself down it in a fit of despair. Buddha had to intervene to save the day and actually ordered Monkey to kill one of the wasp witch's children with a knife - It was a pretty dramatic episode! I'm not surprised you had nightmares! The second last one of the whole series I think. >I thought Monkey was a universal god! Right on! He is on this list in any case!! I hope you are all doing >your part to make Monkey famous again! You bet! Who cares about our day jobs? :-) Back to work Clare *********************************************************** Clare O'Farrell email:c.ofarrell@qut.edu.au web page: http://www.qut.edu.au/edu/cpol/foucault/ 'Let battle commence. Wine and.... bananas!' *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:27:53 +0100 From: Matt Sephton Subject: [monkey] Monkey on Bravo Hi Matt Thanks for contacting Bravo. I've checked the schedules and there are no plans to repeat Monkey at the moment, but I will pass on a request for the series to be repeated. Hope you continue to be entertained by Bravo, Keep Watching, Regards Katherine Mather Viewer Relations - --snip-- Matt - -- u5ms@csc.liv.ac.uk http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:37:13 +0100 From: Matt Sephton Subject: [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. 1) Maybe it would be useful if there was a small FAQ or introductory e-mail for those who are just joining the list. As of Friday I'll be free, and have had some experience with FAQs so will designate myself maintainer if you lot have anything to add or submit. My past FAQs: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/ 2) Has anybody got the exact issue number or more details about the Connect magazine that featured my Monkey page's URL? It has Zippy (from Rainbow) on the cover. Matt - -- u5ms@csc.liv.ac.uk http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:43:45 +0100 From: Matt Sephton Subject: [monkey] Royalties With regards to the royalties dilemma, I was thinking that maybe Masaaki Sakai actually *owns* the rights to Monkey and not NTV? After all it was the series that made him the star that he is. Maybe? Matt - -- u5ms@csc.liv.ac.uk http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~u5ms/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:48:20 +1000 (EST) From: "Smith / Jeanette Yvonne (MGM)" Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" Yes, I remember and it gave me nightmares too. The witch who was like a queen bee demon would patrol the village searching for children and when one mother tried to silence her child she suffocated her. There may also have been a well filled with tears from a mother who had lost a child. I recently mentioned this to Howell in a request to write a summary of this ep, however I cannot get a hold of it on video. On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Nicole Givney wrote: > Is it just me........or was there an episode where a witch-like > character was stealing children from a village, and Monkey and his > entourage came and saved the day? > I would very much like to get to the bottom of this because I had > nightmares over it when I was younger....and if I am told it wasn't a > Monkey episode then I have no idea of what it could possibly be, and I > will be emotionally scarred for life. > So, even if it isnt a Monkey episode, perhaps it is better that you tell > me it is anyway. > :) > Nikki > Sydney Australia > 19 > PS. I can't believe there are only about 50 ppl on this list. I thought > Monkey was a universal god! > PPS. I use irc a hell of a lot (my nick is diva on Austnet) and I have > been refreshing everyone's memory about Monkey. I hope you are all doing > your part to make Monkey famous again! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:55:16 +1000 (EST) From: "Smith / Jeanette Yvonne (MGM)" Subject: Re: [monkey] Who's your favourite character? On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Howell Parry wrote: > Everyone, > > Who is your favourite character in "Monkey"? Tripitaka > > What's your favourite episode featuring this character? The one where the images come to life from a painting on a screen. > Please send your replies to the list (monkey@valinor.eldar.org) > > Howell > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:54:57 -0700 From: "Daniel M" Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" - ---------- Clare O'Farrell wrote: Buddha had to intervene to save the day and actually ordered > Monkey to kill one of the wasp witch's children with a knife - It was a > pretty dramatic episode! I'm not surprised you had nightmares! The second > last one of the whole series I think. > I thought that it WAS the last episode. Anyway, as I recall <*opening memory vault*> Monkey actually did kill the child (well, I remember the kid died SOMEHOW) and the witch became good. Right?? ~Daniel ************************************************************************ Monkey Magic!-- http://www.student.adelaide.edu.au/~redcat/monkey.htm The Amazing Astroboy!-- http://www.merlin.net.au/~daniel/astroindex.htm ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:01:48 GMT+0800 From: "Robert Vong" Subject: Re: [monkey] Pigsy's pig features > When exactly did Pigsy get his "pig features", i.e. his pig's nose > and ears? hehe... ok, when he loses control over food or girls, that's when his animal features take over. But, in the original story, Pigsy was suppose to have been some official in heaven, but, he fell in love, susequently breaking some wheel of time, and was banished to be reincarnated something like a thousand or so times into tragic tragic love scenarios... so sad. Anyway, while serving out his sentence he resists & accidently falls down the animal reincarnation tunnel - thus, Pigsy. His early life was kinda harsh, being half human & animal, so you can kinda imagine how the townfolk reacted. Also, not having any powers or memory from his previous lives, he was helpless. One day as he's about to be killed by the peasants, the goddess of mercy appears & restores his memory & powers & asks him to accompany these guys on some pilgrimage... blah. Also, unlike the Japanese version, he normally pranced around in his animal form & only became human as a diguise. bye :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:45:00 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: [monkey] The Wasp Witch Episode- Nicole, it does exist!! At 03:17 PM 6/4/97 +1100, Nicole wrote: Is it just me........or was there an episode where a witch-like character was stealing children from a village, and Monkey and his entourage came and saved the day? Forgive me if someone has already answered your query because I've just downloaded a ton of messages from the list and I haven't read them all yet, but I actually know the answer to this one! The episode you mention is the only episode I have on tape and it involves an evil wasp witch with a magic whip. Monkey and the gang encounter a woman trying to commit suicide by hanging herself (Monkey stops the woman by punching her in the face!). She reveals that she is suicidal because she accidentally killed her own child. She covered her daughter's mouth to stop her crying when the witch came searching for the children of the village. Her grief stricken tears were enough to fill the local village well with salt water. Monkey and the villagers set traps for the witch, but Pigsy falls victim to his own trap (he falls into a hole filled with steaks that he set up himself! :)) Monkey eventually traces the witch to her mountain hideaway called Kijo. He enters the mountain disguised as a "horse fly" and is promptly squashed by the witch before returning to his normal form with "a terrible backache". Monkey discovers that the wasp witch is killing human children to lay her eggs in. When the grubs hatch they eventually evolve into normal children themselves and the witch has 100 of her own. Monkey is astonished by the fact that the witch has children of her own that she loves and yet she murders other people's. After preying in front of the bones of dead children, Monkey reports the news to Tripitaka who is deeply shocked. Another kidnapping occurs and Monkey attempts to chase the witch in his cloud (she flies in a strange horse and cart cloud!) but she threatens to kill the kidnapped child so Monkey is powerless to act. Pigsy attempts to enter the witch's mountain disguised as a pig but he is caught and tied up, destined for the dinner table. Only a loose rope allows him to escape. Timely intervention from Buddha saves the day. Buddha takes one of the wasp spirit's own children and the hysterical witch flies to the village and discovers that her child is safe with Monkey and the others. Buddha appears and orders Tripitaka to kill the child but "he" strongly refuses. Consequently, Buddha forces Monkey (through some kind of hypnosis) to pick up a dagger and stab the child, absolving him from blame. The wasp witch is so devastated by the loss of her favourtie daughter Ido, that she kills herself with the same dagger. Moments later, flower petals fall from the sky and the witch and her daughter are magically brought back to life by Buddha. Buddha cungers up a pomigranite (sp?), the symbol of fertility and tells the witch that she is to kill no more children. Now that she has experienced the grief that other mothers felt when their children were killed, the witch changes her evil ways. Monkey and his group depart the village on good terms with the witch. I hope that clears up your query. Actually, I'm willing to do this episode for the episode summaries that someone mentioned recently. I would very much like to get to the bottom of this because I had nightmares over it when I was younger....and if I am told it wasn't a Monkey episode then I have no idea of what it could possibly be, and I will be emotionally scarred for life. So, even if it isnt a Monkey episode, perhaps it is better that you tell me it is anyway. Rest easy, it is an episode of Monkey and a pretty good one too! :) Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:56:06 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: Re: [monkey] Royalties At 09:43 AM 6/4/97 +0100, Matt wrote: With regards to the royalties dilemma, I was thinking that maybe Masaaki Sakai actually *owns* the rights to Monkey and not NTV? After all it was the series that made him the star that he is. Maybe? It's possible but highly unlikely IMHO. I'm not sure of Masaaki Sakai's status in Japan, but he'd have to be a pretty damn popular and influential actor to own the rights to an entire television series. Since NTV produced the series, I reckon they'd have overall copyright control. But having said that, I guess Masaaki would have some say in proceedings since he is the title character of the series. It's understandable that he'd ask for royalties, but I guess a cult program of little appeal to the massess (only us mailing list freaks! ;)) will only sell a limited number of videos and thus, royalty payments would have to be fairly modest, Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:01:05 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" Buddha had to intervene to save the day and actually ordered Monkey to kill one of the wasp witch's children with a knife - It was a pretty dramatic episode! I'm not surprised you had nightmares! The second last one of the whole series I think. I thought that it WAS the last episode. Anyway, as I recall <*opening memory vault*> Monkey actually did kill the child (well, I remember the kid died SOMEHOW) and the witch became good. Right?? Yes, but only because she learnt the error of her ways. Buddha brought the witch's child back to life, as a means of teaching her a lesson but not making her suffer the permanent loss of her daughter. I think this episode is interesting in that it shows that Buddha had to be cruel to be kind, Nick. Oh yeah, I'm sure it was the last episode too. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 06:56:47 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. >1) Maybe it would be useful if there was a small FAQ or introductory >e-mail for those who are just joining the list. As of Friday I'll be >free, and have had some experience with FAQs so will designate myself >maintainer if you lot have anything to add or submit. Definitely! Here's a few questions for it: (1) Is Monkey available on video (in the UK)? (2) Is there a CD available of the music from Monkey? (3) Are there any plans for the BBC / Bravo to repeat Monkey? Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:07:02 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] THanks Howell >Howell Parry wrote: >> >> >Ummm, hwat CD? You've got me curious here. >> >> >Arwen >> >> I've got a CD called "Magic Monkey" by the Japanese band Godiego; it >> features the songs "Monkey Magic", "Gandhara" and other music from >> the series. >> >> If you want a copy of it, tell me your name & address, send me some >> money to cover my costs, and I'll send it to you as soon as I can. >> >> [This goes for anyone; if anyone wants a copy of this CD, just let >> me know] >> >> Howell >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >I would be interested, but how much would it cost to get a copy sent to >Australia (or is there anyone in Aus who can make copies - this might be >simpler) > >Arwen >-- It doesn't cost much; about £2.50 altogether in British currency. Let me know if you're interested. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:10:01 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] CD for People in the Great Southern Land >RE: the CD for ppl in Oz. >I am sure that it could be imported...couldnt it? >Then, someone in 'the land down under' could buy it and THAT person could do the >taping, (and no, I am NOT nominating my services) >:) >:) >Or am I completely out of it because I came into the conversation mid-chat >(reason being I only just subscribed)? > >Just tell me to shut up. > >Nikki > >:) > Shut up. Nah, just kidding :) I suppose you could try to get it on import from your local CD store. If you need all the details (catalogue no., record label etc.) let me know, and I'll send them to you. If you don't manage to get it, I really don't mind copying it for everyone, for the costs involved. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:19:52 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] Royalties >but I guess a cult program of little appeal to the massess (only >us mailing list freaks! ;)) will only sell a limited number of videos and >thus, royalty payments would have to be fairly modest, Don't underestimate the number of Monkey fans that are out there! I find that, although the show has not been shown in the UK fully for 17 years, that most people I talk to remember it well from their childhood days, and the first question they ask me is "Is it on video?" The other week, when the first episode was shown in the UK, loads of people I know taped it, and said it was just as good as they remember it. I was in town last weekend, and I heard some people working in a clothes shop discussing Monkey because it was on the other week, and wondering when it would come out on video - so I told them what I know! When I was at school, *everyone* I knew watched Monkey every Friday night, and at school, we'd "play Monkey" at breaktimes. We'd find sticks, brooms or whatever, and use them as fighting weapons. In fact, a friend of mine at school who had (has) big ears got nicknamed "Pigsy", and to this day, everyone still calls him it! I've spoken to him, and others, and they all would go out and buy all the Monkey videos when it comes out. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:22:25 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] 1) FAQ 2) Connect mag. >>1) Maybe it would be useful if there was a small FAQ or introductory >>e-mail for those who are just joining the list. As of Friday I'll be >>free, and have had some experience with FAQs so will designate myself >>maintainer if you lot have anything to add or submit. Matt, when you get this FAQ up on the Internet, let me know the URL, and I'll mention it at the start of the Intro file for both mailing lists, so that all those who are just joining the list will be recommended to read it. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 11:07:27 PDT From: "Howell Parry" Subject: Re: [monkey] episode summary - 'What Monkey Calls The Dog-Woman' You'll find this on my Monkey! web site now: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/summaries.html Just out of interest, Chris, did they show "Pigsy Woos a Widow" (Season 1, Episode 8) in between episodes 7 and 9? Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:41:32 +0100 From: bcappas@glam.ac.uk (DROWBOY) Subject: [monkey] Pearls of Wisdom... What are people's favourite bits of oriental philosophy from the series? I can remember very little from the series having seen it so long ago apart from some of the title quotes - The phoenix cannot fly until its feathers are grown - and - with our thoughts we make the world. What else do people remember and like? I love this kind of stuff :) Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:34:47 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] Pigsy's pig features > When exactly did Pigsy get his "pig features", i.e. his pig's nose > and ears? First time is (I think...) episode two when he fights with Monkey. Come to think of it, that was a bloody good fight that one, wasn't it? I think at one point they stopped, rested then continued and it had already gone on for about 6 years beforehand or something. He gets the pig nose several times later. The only other time I can think of was in the episode where there were ooohh about three or four spirits that needed to kill Monkey in order to prove their existence. It was also the time when Sandy got his "trout features". John .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:37:08 +0000 From: "Semprini" Subject: Re: [monkey] Video release > >Surely it makes sense for him to agree to a fair share of royalties, > its not > >like he can realistically expect to make much on something he starred > in SO > >long ago... > > I thought that royalties deals were usually signed AT THE TIME when a tv > show or film is made; e.g. when a major feature film is made, the actors > may get a royalties deal as part of their contract. But, once > a film is made, released at the cinema, an actor cannot go THEN and > get a royalties deal for the video release, can he? I would imagine it all depends on what's actually in the contract. > I thought NTV would have full ownership of the TV series, and that > Masaaki Sakai would be powerless to ask for anything more than what he > was paid at the time it was made...? Well, if a band re-releases a single they would get royalties all over again, possibly renegotiated. I'm sure it would be the same for TV. > I don't blame him for trying to get some money out of it, but he is > postponing the UK video release!!! Argh! Yeah, pain in the arse, isn't it? John .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:05:57 +1000 (EST) From: Chris Hadgis Subject: Re: [monkey] episode summary - 'What Monkey Calls The According to Howell Parry: > You'll find this on my Monkey! web site now: > > http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/summaries.html Okay. I'll have to have a link for that when I get my web site set up. > Just out of interest, Chris, did they show "Pigsy Woos a Widow" > (Season 1, Episode 8) in between episodes 7 and 9? They did, but unfortunately I missed it :( The summary of episode 1.10 should be out later today ... I hope. ChrisH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:05:53 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Michiru Takizawa Subject: Re: [monkey] Who's your favourite character? On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Howell Parry wrote: > Who is your favourite character in "Monkey"? (it may not be Monkey...) Probably Tripi, but Monkey himself is the ultimate rogue and hence v loveable. > What's your favourite episode featuring this character? Because I like both Tripi and Monkey, it would have to be that moment in one of the early episodes when Tripi kisses Monkey's eyes when he goes blind. Hubba hubba ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:29:42 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Michiru Takizawa Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept like a human?" > I thought that it WAS the last episode. Anyway, as I recall <*opening > memory vault*> Monkey actually did kill the child (well, I remember the kid > died SOMEHOW) and the witch became good. Right?? I don't know how the series was screened in the UK, but I thought it was the 2nd last episode, because i'm pretty sure that the last episode screened in Aust was the one where Monkey and the gang think they have actually reached India and gotten the scrolls and actually start heading back to China, when it turns out that they have been tricked by a whole bunch of monsters. Buddha gives Monkey a ride on his hand and shows him how far they really are from reaching the end of their pilgrimage - if I remember correctly, they weren't even halfway! ...which makes me wonder - was that actually the end of the whole series, or was there more that never got beyond Japan?? And were all the episodes screened in the correct order? (i've heard vicious rumours about how the ordering of episodes of X-Files have been buggered around with in Aust) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:00:09 GMT+0800 From: "Robert Vong" Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say"Gee I slept > I don't know how the series was screened in the UK, but I thought it was > the 2nd last episode, because i'm pretty sure that the last episode > screened in Aust was the one where Monkey and the gang think they have > actually reached India and gotten the scrolls and actually start heading > back to China, when it turns out that they have been tricked by a whole > bunch of monsters. Buddha gives Monkey a ride on his hand and shows him > how far they really are from reaching the end of their pilgrimage - if I > remember correctly, they weren't even halfway! That's kinda more like what I remembered, the episode with the fake scrolls. However, it was all so long ago... bye. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:47:51 -0700 From: "Daniel M" Subject: [monkey] last episode? Michiru Takizawa wrote: > I don't know how the series was screened in the UK, but I thought it was > the 2nd last episode, because i'm pretty sure that the last episode > screened in Aust was the one where Monkey and the gang think they have > actually reached India and gotten the scrolls and actually start heading > back to China, when it turns out that they have been tricked by a whole > bunch of monsters. Buddha gives Monkey a ride on his hand and shows him > how far they really are from reaching the end of their pilgrimage - if I > remember correctly, they weren't even halfway! > Eh? Hmm..I live in Australia too but I really think that the episode with the witch that took children was the last one. Can anyone who has seen the entire series recently back me up on this (or prove me wrong)? ~Daniel ************************************************************************ Monkey Magic!-- http://www.student.adelaide.edu.au/~redcat/monkey.htm The Amazing Astroboy!-- http://www.merlin.net.au/~daniel/astroindex.htm ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 12:24:34 +1000 (EST) From: Nick McCarthy Subject: Re: [monkey] last episode? >> I don't know how the series was screened in the UK, but I thought it was >> the 2nd last episode, because i'm pretty sure that the last episode >> screened in Aust was the one where Monkey and the gang think they have >> actually reached India and gotten the scrolls and actually start heading >> back to China, when it turns out that they have been tricked by a whole >> bunch of monsters. Buddha gives Monkey a ride on his hand and shows him >> how far they really are from reaching the end of their pilgrimage - if I >> remember correctly, they weren't even halfway! >> > >Eh? Hmm..I live in Australia too but I really think that the episode with >the witch that took children was the last one. Can anyone who has seen the >entire series recently back me up on this (or prove me wrong)? > I haven't seen the series recently but I have seen several repeats over the years and I'm sure the witch episode is the last. A friend of mine taped the last episode shown on Foxtel and it was the witch one and that was also the last episode on the ABC screening in 1992. The episode about the phoney scrolls was midway through the entire series, it was not the concluding episode, Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:34:23 +1000 (EST) From: Chris Hadgis Subject: [monkey] episode summary - 'Pigsy In The Well' This is a review of the episode 'Pigsy In The Well'. Please don't be shy about expressing comments or changes to it, especially for the notes. ChrisH Season 1, Episode 10 - "Pigsy's In The Well" The pilgrims come to a busy town where they find a room for the night. A girl shows interest in Pigsy, but only because she wants to meet Tripitaka. They sneak over to his room. Pigsy hears Tripitaka talking to a woman! The next morning, Pigsy tells Monkey and Sandy what happened the previous night. Tripitaka sees them gossiping, and they confront him about it. He says it was a dream. A spirit appears to Tripitaka. It is of a king who ruled CockCrow until he was drowned three years ago. The land had been in the grip of a three year drought until a taoist arrived and brought rain. The king befriended the magician who started to lust after the queen. The magician killed the king, threw his body into a well, and assumed his form. The spirit wants Tripitaka to help remove the magician from his kingdom. Tripitaka finds the jade seal the spirit left behind, proving his dream was real. Monkey wants to know if the king asked for him by name to rescue his kingdom. The pilgrims decide to go to CockCrow. They find a man who had been placed in a yoke because he couldn't pay taxes. He says if they set him free, he and the pilgrims will be executed. They free him anyway. He tells the pilgrims while he doesn't know the king, he knows the prince, who is hunting in the area. The prince hasn't seen his father for three years. The pilgrims meet the prince. He doesn't believe the pilgrims are who they say they are. One of the soldiers wants to arrest them. Monkey insults the prince until he orders them arrested. Monkey wants to fight, but Tripitaka tells them to submit. Pigsy : Say something really insulting Monkey: Okay... Pig! Tripitaka tries to tell the prince that the king is really the magician. The prince doesn't believe them and threatens to kill them. Monkey calls the prince "a charmer" and tells Tripitaka to show him the seal. "You can't convince a deaf man by talking" [Monkey] The prince then believes that Tripitaka is the magician and that he has stolen the seal! "Please excuse me when I say that you really are extraordinarily dim!" [Monkey] Eventually, the prince decides Tripitaka might be telling the truth. Sandy convinces the prince to let Monkey help him get into the palace to speak with the queen. Sandy: You can always chop us up into pieces later Pigsy: Much later Monkey and the prince get into the castle. The prince meets his mother, and tries to convince her that the king is really the magician. Eventually she believes him. However, a spy has overheard everything. He shoots the prince in the arm before running away. The prince promises to return before he and Monkey leave. Monkey tells Tripitaka what has happened and they conclude that the king really is the magician. Monkey and Pigsy want to fight him, but Sandy realises they don't have any evidence. "You've got a really nasty pimple on your shoulders, eh Pigsy?" [Monkey] Monkey decides they should retrieve the body. He tricks Pigsy into going down the well by telling him their are beautiful women down there. Pigsy believes him. He finds the body and is set upon by Death Maidens. Monkey extends the staff into the well and lifts Pigsy and the king's body out of it. Monkey tricks Pigsy into carrying the king's body, which smells pretty bad, back to Tripitaka by telling him he will get all the glory. Once again, Pigsy believes him. Meanwhile, the magician catches the queen getting ointment for her son. He says he has no son, and she realises the prince was telling the truth. The magician hypnotizes her. The prince mourns for his father. Monkey tells Pigsy he should do a dance to cheer him up a bit. Pigsy is uncertain, so Monkey tells him he will ask Tripitaka if it is okay for Pigsy to dance. What he really says to Tripitaka is that Pigsy has a pill that can bring the dead back to life and is unsure whether he should use it or not. Tripitaka turns to Pigsy and says "what are you waiting for". Of course, Pigsy takes this as a sign that he should do his dance, so he starts singing and prancing around. The rest of them stare at him while a livid Tripitaka berates him for inappropriate behaviour. Sandy figures out that Monkey has tricked Pigsy, and mentions that the philosopher Lao Tzu has an elixir of life. Tripitaka orders Monkey to fetch it. Lao Tzu is playing Mah Jong when Monkey arrives at his house. He asks for the elixir, but Lao Tzu gives him a poison pill instead, saying he won't give up the elixir. He puts the jar with the pill next to the board and invites Monkey to play a game with him. During the game, Monkey tries to get the jar, but Lao Tzu touches the lid. Monkey succeeds in grabbing it the second time, takes the lid off the jar, and puts the lid on his foot. Lao Tzu touches the lid again, unaware that Monkey has pocketed the pill. Monkey picks his nose and makes a fake pill which he puts back in the jar. He replaces the jar on the table, and once again Lao Tzu touches the lid. In the meantime, Monkey has won the game! Monkey leaves the philosopher. Lao Tzu takes the fake pill out of the jar and puts in his mouth before spitting it out in disgust. Monkey returns with the pill. Tripitaka puts in the dead king's mouth, says a prayer, and the king comes back to life. He recognises his son and greets Tripitaka. The kings vows revenge against the magician. The pilgrims, with the king and the prince disguised as disciples, ask for an audience with the king/magician to get his seal on their papers. The king/magician reads the papers and notices that there are only supposed to be three disciples, but Tripitaka has five. The king and the prince show themselves and denounce the magician. The magician takes the bewitched queen and makes a run for it. Monkey, Pigsy, and Sandy chase him but lose him when he jumps. Tripitaka cries out to them, and when they get back, they see two Tripitakas - one of them obviously the magician in disguise. Sandy realises that only one of them knows the headache sutra. Both of them start praying. The real Tripitaka stops, as does Monkey's pain, but the magician keeps going for a while. The magician takes the queen, who declares her love for him, and runs away. The others soon catch them up. The prince fights the magician, and with some help from Monkey, knocks him down. As he goes to deliver the final blow, the queen throws herself over the magician, saving his life at the expense of hers. The king and prince tend to the queen as Monkey fights the magician. Just as she is about to die, the spell is broken long enough for her to say goodbye to her husband and son. Monkey beats the magician, and watches as the magician transforms into a large lizard, something like a Kimodo dragon. The king and son farewell the pilgrims as they continue their journey. "The winner, the Buddha says, sows hatred because the loser must suffer. Give up winning and losing, then find joy" [narrator] Notes * Why did Pigsy think Tripitaka was talking to a girl when he was talking to a king with a deep voice? Pigsy seemed certain the other voice was that of a woman. * Monkey says "you can try, sunshine" to the soldier who wants to arrest them. 'sunshine' doesn't sound like a typical Japanese thing to call someone. * Sandy is shown to be quite intelligent - Pigsy is not. * Monkey is in fine form this episode - he insults a prince, tricks Pigsy three times, outwits a philosopher, and fights a magician. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:14:17 +1000 From: David Sitsky Subject: Re: [monkey] Do logs wake up in the morning and say "Gee I slept like a human?" > YES YES YES!!! YEEHAAAA!!! WOOOHOOO!!! > Now, 10 years later I remember that scene too! > Thank you soooooooooo much David! If it hadnt been for you, then I would > have died without ever remembering that that scene was in my memory > somewhere! Does that make sense? > Wow, no one has told me to shut up yet! He he... speaking of being told to shut-up... when I worked in Japan recently, people were so surprised when they heard "monkey" was shown in both the UK and Australia. We always confirmed we were talking about the same show when we started to sing the main tune together! Does anyone remember G-force? In Japan, its called Gatchaman or something like that - the music is a dead giveaway when you are trying to explain which show you are talking about ;) Both shows apparently also had a huge following in Japan. > Have 17 for me THANKS! Cheers, ;) David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:07:49 +1000 From: "Clare O'Farrell" Subject: [monkey] last episode >I thought that it WAS the last episode. Anyway, as I recall <*opening >memory vault*> Monkey actually did kill the child (well, I remember the kid >died SOMEHOW) and the witch became good. Right?? No, the last episode (last one of season 3) is the one in which Tripitaka's own mother dies. Tripitaka dreams that his mother is ill and Monkey flies back to the capital of China where he sees Tripitaka's mother die. Monkey returns and impersonates Tripitaka's mother to try and prevent Tripitaka from knowing that his mother has died. He creates a really dumb double of himself complete with idiotic smile so that he can impersonate the mother. (Sandy: 'Let's go the inn'. Monkey's double: 'I'm already in. Let's go out') After Monkey's deception is discovered Tripitaka wants to return to China and starts drinking to drown his sorrows but fortunately his mother's ghost turns up and persuades him to continue on with his journey.The way the episode is set up it is clearly intended to be a last episode. Buddha appears and says a few things at the end. As last episodes go I actually prefer the one where they think they have reached India but it is all an illusion and the scrolls are fake. This is the one that Michiru refers to - it is in fact the last episode of season 2. Clare *********************************************************** Clare O'Farrell email:c.ofarrell@qut.edu.au web page: http://www.qut.edu.au/edu/cpol/foucault/ 'Let battle commence. Wine and.... bananas!' *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of Monkey Digest V1 #23 *************************** ----------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the Monkey Mailing List digest list, send mail to: majordomo@valinor.eldar.org with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe monkey-digest To send a message to the list, send mail to: monkey-digest@valinor.eldar.org If you have any problems or questions, send mail to: owner-monkey@valinor.eldar.org For lots more information and news about "Monkey", check out the Monkey! web site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/