From: owner-monkey To: monkey-digest@anduin.eldar.org Subject: Monkey Digest V1 #7 Reply-To: monkey@anduin.eldar.org Errors-To: owner-monkey Precedence: bulk Monkey Digest Monday, 19 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 007 In this issue: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record "Monkey Magic" ?!? [monkey] New Monkey Mailing List address Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game [monkey] Monkey bloopers! Re: [monkey] Monkey bloopers! Re: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record "Monkey Magic" ?!? Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband Re: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband [monkey] monkey's cloud Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game [monkey] Quote file Re: [monkey] Monkey bloopers! Re: [monkey] Quote file Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? Re: [monkey] Caves + Disco Re: [monkey] Caves + Disco Re: [monkey] monkey's cloud Re: [monkey] Quote file [monkey] Starzinger / Spaceketeers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howell Parry" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 03:49:21 PDT Subject: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record "Monkey Magic" ?!? While searching the web for "Monkey Magic", I found this page: http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/history.html It features .AU sound samples from a The Verve CD called "History", and one of them is called "Monkey Magic (Brainstorm Mix)" - http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/sounds/monkey.au I don't have the ability to play sound on my PC, so could one of you possibly download this sound file, and tell me if it's the "Monkey Magic" theme tune? If so, what's it like? Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 04:18:13 PDT Subject: [monkey] New Monkey Mailing List address Hello. I'm not sure my email that I sent an hour or so ago got delivered properly, so I'll repeat the information here: While the guys at eldar.org are looking for a new machine to replace VALINOR, the Monkey Mailing List will be hosted on their ANDUIN machine. This means that all admin requests (subscribe, unsubscribe, who etc.) should now be sent to majordomo@ANDUIN.eldar.org , and all messages to the Monkey Mailing List should be sent to monkey@ANDUIN.eldar.org Note, please RESEND any bounced (undelivered) email which you may have tried sending to the valinor address in the last 36 hours or so, to this new address: monkey@ANDUIN.eldar.org Sometime in the next few weeks, the Monkey Mailing List will get a new, permanent home - I'll let you all know the details in plenty of time. Unlike this time, no messages will be lost - there'll be a smooth transition. Get those messages coming.... Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Nick McCarthy Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:11:42 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? I've never seen the whole series of Monkey and I was wondering - did they ever make it to India to get the Buddhist scriptures? I heard a rumour that they thought they'd got there, but it turned out to be a hoax or something... I'd like to know what the last episode of Monkey is like... how does it all end? Oh what a cheat! It's like reading the last page of a book first. I know - I was going to suggest that any replies to my message should be sent to me personally - otherwise it might spoil the ending for everyone who hasn't seen it... (But yes, the hoax thing was the last one of series.. erm... two I think...) No, unfortunately they never make it. I can't remember what happens in the last episode though. Really? I felt sure they would have made it at the end of the third series... The last episode, as far as I know, is the one about the wasp witch who stole little children and layed her eggs in them in "kijo"- her "serpent like" mountain hideaway. This was a rather inconclusive episode but I'm pretty sure it was the final one because it was the last one shown on Foxtel recently and I also remember it being the last on the final ABC screening too in 1992. I'd still like to see the final episode; I've heard that Monkey loses his headband - is this true? He does lose his headband in one ep but I'm pretty sure it's not the last one. I remember the headband is whisked away by Buddha to temporarily provide Monkey with his freedom, Nick. ------------------------------ From: Nick McCarthy Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:13:02 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? At 08:39 AM 5/16/97 +1000, you wrote: About the end of the series ... There is an episode where some monsters present the scriptures to Tripitaka and then tell them they can fly home. Monkey asks why they can fly home when they had to walk all the way to India. This makes him suspicious and the ruse is revealed. I could be wrong, but I remember the ruse being revealed when the scriptures were lifted from their box and the were discovered to be fake. Then the mirage of Buddha in heaven dissapeared to reveal the demons that were behind the whole thing. I think it was in a very early episode when they originally set out on the pilgramige, where Monkey asks Tripitaka if he can just fly to India and pick up the scriptures. "He/She" says no because magical intervention is forbidden in the quest or something. I thought the whole idea of the series is that they do =not= get to India to show that all life is a journey. Or something like that. Probably, I reckon that would've been Tripitaka's philosophy (Monkey's would've been to fly, Sandy's to swim and Pigsy's to have sex with as many chicks as possible :)), Nick. Nick. ------------------------------ From: Nick McCarthy Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:14:05 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game I never actually played this game, but since I used to own a Commodore 64, I remember hearing about it. I'd like to have a go at it! Do you know if it's available on the Internet, for use with a Commodore 64 emulator? I'll have a look.... For Heaven's sake, let us know if you find anything! It sounds superb! Well - I searched loads of C64 game sites earlier today, and unfortunately couldn't find anything..... But I'll keep looking! I may (and I stress *may*) still have it on tape with all my other C64 stuff. I know at one time, I lost a lot of my casette based games but it could still be around somewhere. If so, I would make a copy for anyone who wants it or who has a C64 of their own (which I know is unlikely in this day and age), Nick. ------------------------------ From: Nick McCarthy Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:45:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: [monkey] Monkey bloopers! Hi All, Glad to see the list up and running again- I thought our Monkey ravings were destined for a premature end! I thought I'd mention some of the amusing bloopers that I've seen in Monkey, all of which had added to the charm and appeal of the show :) Firstly, there have been several bloopers involving costumes and wigs. In several scenes, Monkey's sideburns actually started peeling off to to the point where they were hanging precariously from his face! Secondly, I remember one scene in particular where Tripitaka rides off on the horse at high speed and "her" "priest hat" flaps around in the breeze- underneath you can clearly see "her" dark hair (ie: it was really a stuntman who hadn't bothered to put on a bald wig). Also, in many scenes you could see the actor's real hair under the Pigsy wig. There was one episode where Monkey grew to giant proportions to fight a cowardly dog spirit. The "dog" was dressed in a mangey grey suit which looked like one of those tacky old things that the Koala Foundation fundraisers wear- you could see that the actor was wearing a blue t-shirt underneath because half the buttons on his suit broke when he was fighting! Has anyone else found bloopers from the show?, Nick. ------------------------------ From: "Semprini" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:10:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey bloopers! > Has anyone else found bloopers from the show?, Well, in almost every single one you could see Monkey's white skin begin when the brown makeup had ended. .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ From: "Semprini" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:10:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record "Monkey Magic" ?!? > While searching the web for "Monkey Magic", I found this page: > > http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/history.html > > It features .AU sound samples from a The Verve CD called "History", > and one of them is called "Monkey Magic (Brainstorm Mix)" - > http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/sounds/monkey.au > > I don't have the ability to play sound on my PC, so could one of you > possibly download this sound file, and tell me if it's the "Monkey > Magic" theme tune? If so, what's it like? No it's nothing to do with Monkey (and I've just checked to prove it). The Verve are a supposedly excellent English indie band. I doubt it'd be their sort of thing really. John .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ From: "Semprini" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:10:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game <> > I may (and I stress *may*) still have it on tape with all my other C64 > stuff. I know at one time, I lost a lot of my casette based games but it > could still be around somewhere. If so, I would make a copy for anyone who > wants it or who has a C64 of their own (which I know is unlikely in this day > and age), Excuse the ignorance, but presumably there's a C64 emulator? Can you then transfer the game from tape.. onto.. erm.. that? .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ From: "Semprini" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:10:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband > Did Tripitaka ever release Monkey from his headband? > > I read somewhere recently that he(!) does; it may just be in the book... There was one episode, fairly late on I think (possibly third series to be preciseish) where (s)he does. I can't really remember it too well, though. What I think happened was that Tripitaka and everyone had got captures and were going to be put to death or something. And she did it so that Monkey could escape. Is that right? I'm not sure. Anyway he eventually decided that he didn't like having the freedom so he got it back. And there you go. A really inadequate explanation for you. .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Steelcraft" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:46:58 +0930 Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband >> Did Tripitaka ever release Monkey from his headband? >> >> I read somewhere recently that he(!) does; it may just be in the book... > >There was one episode, fairly late on I think (possibly third series >to be preciseish) where (s)he does. I can't really remember it too >well, though. > >What I think happened was that Tripitaka and everyone had got >captures and were going to be put to death or something. And she did >it so that Monkey could escape. > >Is that right? > >I'm not sure. > >Anyway he eventually decided that he didn't like having the freedom >so he got it back. I remember the reason he got the band back was because Tripitaka was captured and had a necklace type thing attached that gradually got smaller. To free Tripitaka, Monkey transfered himself into Tripitaka's body, and then switched places with the priest. Tripitaka was freed and Monkey died. To bring Monkey back to life, Tripitaka returned the band and then used the Headach Sutra. Quite simple really :) Are you as confused by that explanation as I am? >And there you go. A really inadequate explanation for you. > >.oOo. >"hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) >http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ >(for Heaven's sake, go there..) | Mr. Steelcraft (aka Adam Gray) | I don't collect art. I also | adamgray@onaustralia.com.au | don't collect...whatever *that* |http://www.users.bigpond.com/adamgray | is. | | - Ben ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:52:23 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband >> Did Tripitaka ever release Monkey from his headband? >> >> I read somewhere recently that he(!) does; it may just be in the book... > >There was one episode, fairly late on I think (possibly third series >to be preciseish) where (s)he does. I can't really remember it too >well, though. > >What I think happened was that Tripitaka and everyone had got >captures and were going to be put to death or something. And she did >it so that Monkey could escape. > >Is that right? > >I'm not sure. > >Anyway he eventually decided that he didn't like having the freedom >so he got it back. > >And there you go. A really inadequate explanation for you. Thanks! I'll have to watch this episode sometime - let's hope the whole series is released on vid later this year; it looks promising. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:55:32 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Did The Verve ever record >> While searching the web for "Monkey Magic", I found this page: >> >> http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/history.html >> >> It features .AU sound samples from a The Verve CD called "History", >> and one of them is called "Monkey Magic (Brainstorm Mix)" - >> http://raft.vmg.co.uk/theverve/ans/sounds/monkey.au >> >> I don't have the ability to play sound on my PC, so could one of you >> possibly download this sound file, and tell me if it's the "Monkey >> Magic" theme tune? If so, what's it like? > >No it's nothing to do with Monkey (and I've just checked to prove >it). The Verve are a supposedly excellent English indie band. I >doubt it'd be their sort of thing really. I thought it was a bit strange; far too cheesy for them. They're doing a gig in Manchester soon, and I was half-tempted to go to it to see if they sang *the* "Monkey Magic"! I guess I won't bother now - thanks. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:59:25 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game ><> >> I may (and I stress *may*) still have it on tape with all my other C64 >> stuff. I know at one time, I lost a lot of my casette based games but it >> could still be around somewhere. If so, I would make a copy for anyone who >> wants it or who has a C64 of their own (which I know is unlikely in this day >> and age), > >Excuse the ignorance, but presumably there's a C64 emulator? Can you >then transfer the game from tape.. onto.. erm.. that? Yes, there lots of C64 emulators available on the Internet. And almost every site that features it also has a huge list of C64 "tape files / images", ending with a .T64 extension. *Somehow*, but I don't know how, it IS possible to transfer the games from tape to "tape image files"... Can anyone else help with this? Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Semprini" Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:42:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey's headband > I remember the reason he got the band back was because Tripitaka was > captured and had a necklace type thing attached that gradually got smaller. > To free Tripitaka, Monkey transfered himself into Tripitaka's body, and > then switched places with the priest. Tripitaka was freed and Monkey died. > To bring Monkey back to life, Tripitaka returned the band and then used > the Headach Sutra. Quite simple really :) That's the one! I knew it was something simple like that...!! > Are you as confused by that explanation as I am? Yes.. But I remember it well now. .oOo. "hello" (c) 1997 mailto:semprini@buttle.com (All Rights Reserved) http://freeweb.redcat.org.uk/~semprini/ (for Heaven's sake, go there..) ------------------------------ From: "Clare O'Farrell" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:38:12 +1000 Subject: [monkey] monkey's cloud Speaking of Monkey's lovely pink cloud.... I love that episode where the cloud shrinks and in the background of one scene Monkey is trying to nurse it back to health in his jacket. A bit comes off the cloud and he looks horrified. Has anybody else noticed the silly things he does in the background in some scenes? Clare *********************************************************** Clare O'Farrell email:c.ofarrell@qut.edu.au web page: http://www.qut.edu.au/edu/cpol/foucault/ 'Let battle commence. Wine and.... bananas!' *********************************************************** ------------------------------ From: aholland@tuu.utas.edu.au (Aaron) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:10:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey Magic computer game ><> >> I may (and I stress *may*) still have it on tape with all my other C64 >> stuff. I know at one time, I lost a lot of my casette based games but it >> could still be around somewhere. If so, I would make a copy for anyone who >> wants it or who has a C64 of their own (which I know is unlikely in this day >> and age), You might be surprised how many people still have their C64's still lying around at home! :-) The computer has far more value than you would get if you sold the thing. I still have mine and a friend of mine from a while back said he had monkey magic on floppy disk. I wish I had got a copy from him! >:-/ ------------------------------ From: Chris Hadgis Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:19:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: [monkey] Quote file Does anyone know if a Monkey Magic quote file exists anywhere? I'd love to see a file/webpage with MM quotes in it. If there isn't one, does anyone want to create it? Unfortunately, I don't have a web-page :( so I can't host it. If somebody else wants to do this, I'm sure MM fans around the world would be happy about it. ChrisH - -- I will maintain a healthy amount of skepticism when I capture the beautiful rebel and she claims she is attracted to my power and good looks and will gladly betray her companions if I just let her in on my plans. ------------------------------ From: aholland@tuu.utas.edu.au (Aaron) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:23:39 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Monkey bloopers! >> Has anyone else found bloopers from the show?, > >Well, in almost every single one you could see Monkey's white skin >begin when the brown makeup had ended. Well, I don't know if you could call it a blooper, but monkey's headband seems to move around a bit too freely for something that is supposed to be so tight that even monkey can't remove it. :-) ------------------------------ From: aholland@tuu.utas.edu.au (Aaron) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:38:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [monkey] Quote file >Does anyone know if a Monkey Magic quote file exists anywhere? > >I'd love to see a file/webpage with MM quotes in it. > >If there isn't one, does anyone want to create it? > >Unfortunately, I don't have a web-page :( so I can't host it. If >somebody else wants to do this, I'm sure MM fans around the world >would be happy about it. > >ChrisH I'd be glad to do it! If any one could send some quotes to me or the mailing list I'll try and get it up and running. ------------------------------ From: "Clare O'Farrell" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:40:56 +1000 Subject: Re: [monkey] Did they ever get to India? >About the end of the series ... It seems to me that the last episode of season 2 where they are tricked about the scriptures and Momkey dies to save Tripitaka was originally intended to be the final final! episode of the series and that the third season was made as a kind of afterthought - 'by popular demand' sort of thing. I think the last episode of season 2 was in fact a perfect finishing episode. I am still disappointed about season 3 and things like the lack of interesting character development which was a feature of the first two series. Clare *********************************************************** Clare O'Farrell email:c.ofarrell@qut.edu.au web page: http://www.qut.edu.au/edu/cpol/foucault/ 'Let battle commence. Wine and.... bananas!' *********************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Munro" Date: 19 May 1997 05:01 EDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Caves + Disco In message "[monkey] Caves + Disco", "Mr. Steelcraft" writes: > [...snip...] > > >Also, I've heard that there's one episode where they all end up in a disco > and > >they're all dancing to the "Monkey Magic" theme tune! > > > >Does anyone else remember these episodes? > > I remember the Disco episode fondly. It was one of the rare opportunities > to hear the extra verse of the theme music :) Talking about an episode where the modern world intrudes into the world of Monkey, ie. the disco in the cave, does anyone remember the cloud dogfight? I may be imagining this, but I seem to remember Monkey whistling up his cloud in order to defeat some villain. The villain then copies Monkey's actions and up pops his own black cloud. He leaps aboard and the pair start a dogfight, complete with cloud-mounted machine guns! Did this happen or is it a figleaf of my imagination? ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 02:19:54 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Caves + Disco >> >Also, I've heard that there's one episode where they all end up in a disco >> and >> >they're all dancing to the "Monkey Magic" theme tune! >> > >> >Does anyone else remember these episodes? >> >> I remember the Disco episode fondly. It was one of the rare opportunities >> to hear the extra verse of the theme music :) > >Talking about an episode where the modern world intrudes into the world of >Monkey, ie. the disco in the cave, does anyone remember the cloud dogfight? >I may be imagining this, but I seem to remember Monkey whistling up his >cloud in order to defeat some villain. The villain then copies Monkey's >actions and up pops his own black cloud. He leaps aboard and the pair >start a dogfight, complete with cloud-mounted machine guns! > >Did this happen or is it a figleaf of my imagination? 'Tis no figleaf - I'm sure it did happen! Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 02:23:31 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] monkey's cloud > Speaking of Monkey's lovely pink cloud.... I love that episode where the >cloud shrinks and in the background of one scene Monkey is trying to nurse >it back to health in his jacket. A bit comes off the cloud and he looks >horrified. > >Has anybody else noticed the silly things he does in the background in some >scenes? > >Clare I've not noticed these things, no; I love the sound of the episode with Monkey nursing his cloud!!! Cheesey, or what? Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 02:33:40 PDT Subject: Re: [monkey] Quote file >>Does anyone know if a Monkey Magic quote file exists anywhere? >> >>I'd love to see a file/webpage with MM quotes in it. >> >>If there isn't one, does anyone want to create it? >> >>Unfortunately, I don't have a web-page :( so I can't host it. If >>somebody else wants to do this, I'm sure MM fans around the world >>would be happy about it. >> >>ChrisH > > >I'd be glad to do it! If any one could send some quotes to me or the >mailing list I'll try and get it up and running. > Let me know when it's up - and I'll link to it. I was watching an episode of Monkey yesterday [episode 3], when Monkey goes to Pigsy's house, and they tell him that he's "a drinking...... swine", and Monkey says "So he's not that bad then"... I can't remember the exact quotes. Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Howell Parry" Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:18:15 PDT Subject: [monkey] Starzinger / Spaceketeers Has anyone ever seen the Japanese cartoon "Starzinger" / "Spaceketeers", which was apparently one of the cartoons in Jim Terry's FORCE FIVE multi-series? It's based on the Hsi Yu Chi story that Monkey is based on, except that it's set in space! Each character is related to a character in "Monkey": Jesse Dart = Monkey Princess Aurora = Tripitaka Airmos = ? Porkos = Pigsy Check out the excellent Starzinger Fanclub web site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/7156/ Howell - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Monkey Digest V1 #7 ************************** ----------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the Monkey Mailing List digest list, send mail to: majordomo@anduin.eldar.org with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe monkey-digest To send a message to the list, send mail to: monkey-digest@anduin.eldar.org If you have any problems or questions, send mail to: owner-monkey@anduin.eldar.org For lots more information and news about "Monkey", check out the Monkey! web site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8153/